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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m sorry, Michael, but it&#8217;s over.</title>
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		<title>By: Jaime</title>
		<link>http://www.parenthetical.net/2008/02/14/im-sorry-michael-but-its-over/comment-page-1/#comment-49776</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was Michael Pollan&#039;s look (or far-off, faintly scornful gaze) at vegetarianism that ended our relationship in TOD. I&#039;m not surprised at all to hear he continues with it. 
But, to be fair- he gets people thinking. He made my Ann Arbor cousins consider eating more locally. Truly, that is a feat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was Michael Pollan&#8217;s look (or far-off, faintly scornful gaze) at vegetarianism that ended our relationship in TOD. I&#8217;m not surprised at all to hear he continues with it.<br />
But, to be fair- he gets people thinking. He made my Ann Arbor cousins consider eating more locally. Truly, that is a feat.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[A]ll traditional cuisines evolved for a reason, and keep their populations healthy, so pick a traditional cuisine and eat that way.&quot;

What?  Evolved for a reason?  Like local climate, soil quality, and agricultural and/or animal husbandry technology?  That kind of reason?  Because I strongly suspect that overcoming the problem of scarcity was a much stronger factor in the development of traditional cuisines than any actual nutritional concerns.  

If anything, I&#039;d think that the evolution would go the other way, and the local populations would evolve around being able to survive on what food they could produce.  Your community has figured out how to farm barley efficiently?  Great.  All of you who can digest barley will prosper.  Those who can&#039;t digest barley for whatever reason will die out.  Which certainly wouldn&#039;t make me think that just picking a traditional cuisine would be that good of an idea.

Plus, even if you did pick the traditional cuisine that matches your genetic makeup, then there&#039;s no guarantee that the species-survival patterns of the past are going to be all that desirable in the present.  It&#039;s very possible that, while your traditional cuisine was shaping your tribe&#039;s nutritional requirements, the environment was such that optimal survival meant reproducing early and then dying quickly of a heart attack to clear way for the next generation.  Efficient, but hardly a pattern that I&#039;d choose to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[A]ll traditional cuisines evolved for a reason, and keep their populations healthy, so pick a traditional cuisine and eat that way.&#8221;</p>
<p>What?  Evolved for a reason?  Like local climate, soil quality, and agricultural and/or animal husbandry technology?  That kind of reason?  Because I strongly suspect that overcoming the problem of scarcity was a much stronger factor in the development of traditional cuisines than any actual nutritional concerns.  </p>
<p>If anything, I&#8217;d think that the evolution would go the other way, and the local populations would evolve around being able to survive on what food they could produce.  Your community has figured out how to farm barley efficiently?  Great.  All of you who can digest barley will prosper.  Those who can&#8217;t digest barley for whatever reason will die out.  Which certainly wouldn&#8217;t make me think that just picking a traditional cuisine would be that good of an idea.</p>
<p>Plus, even if you did pick the traditional cuisine that matches your genetic makeup, then there&#8217;s no guarantee that the species-survival patterns of the past are going to be all that desirable in the present.  It&#8217;s very possible that, while your traditional cuisine was shaping your tribe&#8217;s nutritional requirements, the environment was such that optimal survival meant reproducing early and then dying quickly of a heart attack to clear way for the next generation.  Efficient, but hardly a pattern that I&#8217;d choose to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if you saw Steven Pinker&#039;s article on morality in the Sunday Times a couple of weeks ago (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/magazine/13Psychology-t.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin), but in it he eventually comes around to talking about the perils that moral thinking present for us when we  want to solve real problems. He writes,

&quot;The moral sense, we are learning, is as vulnerable to illusions as the other senses. It is apt to confuse morality per se with purity, status and conformity. It tends to reframe practical problems as moral crusades and thus see their solution in punitive aggression. It imposes taboos that make certain ideas indiscussible. And it has the nasty habit of always putting the self on the side of the angels.&quot;

If there&#039;s one issue people get over-moral about, to my mind, it&#039;s food. The tendency to want to believe certain foods are bad guys or good guys, to villify &quot;corrupting&quot; influences, to worship &quot;tradition&quot; -- it&#039;s all fucking religion, in my book. IDOF sounds like its full of the typical food-moral platitudes. Frankly, the minute anyone starts using moralizing language -- whether they&#039;re talking about food or conservation -- their credibility starts to go out the window with me.

There was a movement, people. It was called the enlightenment. I, for one, am a fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you saw Steven Pinker&#8217;s article on morality in the Sunday Times a couple of weeks ago (<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/magazine/13Psychology-t.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/magazine/13Psychology-t.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin</a>), but in it he eventually comes around to talking about the perils that moral thinking present for us when we  want to solve real problems. He writes,</p>
<p>&#8220;The moral sense, we are learning, is as vulnerable to illusions as the other senses. It is apt to confuse morality per se with purity, status and conformity. It tends to reframe practical problems as moral crusades and thus see their solution in punitive aggression. It imposes taboos that make certain ideas indiscussible. And it has the nasty habit of always putting the self on the side of the angels.&#8221;</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s one issue people get over-moral about, to my mind, it&#8217;s food. The tendency to want to believe certain foods are bad guys or good guys, to villify &#8220;corrupting&#8221; influences, to worship &#8220;tradition&#8221; &#8212; it&#8217;s all fucking religion, in my book. IDOF sounds like its full of the typical food-moral platitudes. Frankly, the minute anyone starts using moralizing language &#8212; whether they&#8217;re talking about food or conservation &#8212; their credibility starts to go out the window with me.</p>
<p>There was a movement, people. It was called the enlightenment. I, for one, am a fan.</p>
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